page2 (Continued from Page l) this oeriod will cover the ranair-· ing parts of the definition of the U. N. Convention on Genocide. The lynchings and systematic denial of basic hunan needs such as; decent housing, adequate education and nutritious foods to eat during this period, further corroborates the genocide contention. Disproportionate IXJlice killings, suppression of cultural expression, psychologically manipulated to embrace other people's history, values and characteristics and taught to look negatively upon one's own, all give credence to the genocide question. Evidence of Black destruction is alx>und and the processes ·used yesterday to mentally, physically and spiritually destroy Black people are still practiced today (see Chancellor Williams' The Destruction of Bl~ Civilization, Third World Press, 1976). Never in the histroy of this earth has a group of people (us) been constantly under seige. From Afrikan antiquity to pre-< sent times, the attacks on the Black masses have been relentless. Jonestown only serves as another reminder. · We ask, can you recall in recent history the killing of so many Black people at one time, DURING ONE SINGULAR EVENT? Why have we virtually forgOtten such an event? Was Jonestown a CIA mindcontrol experiment and, if so, does the mind games go on? rlhat significance does CIA involvement in Jonestown have to Black communities across this country? The following is an interview done by a Washington, DC coomentator with Congressnan Leo Ryan's (killed in Jonestown) Administrative Assistant, Joseph Holsinger, who says there is evidence of CIA complicity in Jonestown. The text in parenthesis is that of The Advocate. We simply ask you to read the interview and reflect upon the above raised questions. Hopefully, it will serve as an impetus for you to join the struggle to find some answers that will raise the truth that has been crushed to earth. CDMMENI'A'IOR: The CIA is the ruroor, how much involvanent and how true is the ruroor? IDISINGER: Well, there is at least s:me truth to it, we have detennined. The first element I had, something I kept quiet for a year. The afternoon that it happened I had a call fran first the State·Department and then the White House, about the tragedy and the stories conflicted. They had called me up fran the White Ibuse to get identification for the newsmen that were killed there. They did not know their nrunes and I was able to supply than. But at the time when it was a conflict between the two stories that. I had gotten fran the State Department and the White House, I was pretty much in shock and I mentioned that to a friend who called me fran the White Ibuse and be said, "Joe, our information is correct, we have a CIA report fran the scene." ,I have not said anything publicly about that for over a year because I recognize that we have intelligence gathering information everywhere and that is a legit~nate and reasonable analysis, but I had no idea we had a covert operation there~ because Leo Ryan had served on the Oversight Ccmnittee. Matter of fact, he was the author of the Hughes-Ryan Amendment that provided for oversight. (The Hughes-Ryan Amendment, strongly opposed by the CIA, required the CIA to give prior notification of any covert operation.) In that capacity, he would have gotten any re}X>rt the CIA had made to the Oversight Committee about involvement in Guyana. There was not any of these, not even to the Senate or the House. So I just kept quiet because I did not think it would serve any purpose just to point out that they had a CIA report from the scene. It was not until December of 1979, over a year later, that a news story broke in the San Mateo Times to the effect that the Deputy Chief of Missions in Guyana, Richard Dwyer, had not only been the CIA's station chief there, but had gone back to Jonestown after Leo was killed at Port Kaitliila and the FBI had the tape with Jones shouting during the killing there, it was killing, murder, not suicide. "Get Dwyer out of here. Get Dwyer out of here. '' CDMMENI'A'IOR: We are not talking rum:>r here, that is fact?! Blakey, a Jonestown defector, the sister of Larry Layton who was one of Jones' closest aides and commander of the Jonestown security forces. Deborah and Larry are both children of Dr. Lawrence Layton who once served as Chief of Chanica! Warfare for the U.S. Anny and is now a top researcher for the U.S. Department of Agriculture in the San Francisco Bay Area, he was the man who arranged for the lease of the land down there, the land that was leased from the Guyanese government. In early 1974, Phillip Blakey with a $600,000 chech from the Barclays Bank in Canada, was the paymnent, was the way he leased the land. He happens to be the brotherin-law of Larry Layton, who was recently acquitted in Guyana. And Phillip Blakey we have in 19-75 with the CIA recruiting mercenaries for the CIA in Angola in 1975, then back down to Jonestown in late'78 out on one of Jones' boats while all the killing was going on. OOMMENTA'IOR: there? What are you saying IDISINGER: :F'act again. In checking IDlSINGER: I am saying we have inback and following up on this then, volvement on Jones' top staff who is we find a publication in Berlin in CIA plus Dwyer on the other side. And 1968, Who • s Who in the CIA, it is in the indications we have are that our the Library of Congress, on the page government had a long standing realphabetically under ''D's", we find lationship with Jones and the People's Richard Dwyer, this is 1968 mind you. Temple. He joined the State Department in 1957, · . CIA since '59 with all the stations COMMENTATOR: Are we day1ng that Blakey he has been at. Fact again. Then the was involved with Jones? question canes up, why he goes back into Jonestown after Leo was killed. To what purpose? That puzzles me and needs to be checked into. Now fact again, the FBI tried to question him. The Guyanese officials would not let than in. He has since cane back ·to this country, the Justice Department has yet to question him. The Ibuse Foreign Affairs Committee staff investigators admits that they never questioned Dwyer about this incident because they said on their own that they did not believe it, so they saw no reason to question him about it. Why? It is on the tape. They say it must be sane mistake. They say Dwyer was wo~ded there. I have information here I got the day afterwards that he was slightly wounded. How? He did the unbadging. We also have information that he was very ambulatory and he was gone more than half the time that afternoon and evening and he was missing from the Port Kaituma airstrip. So we think that needs to be investigated. There is another tie-in to the Central Intelligence Agency. I want to state here that I am not opposed to the CIA. They perform a necessary function and even the covert operations are necessary, but they have to be monitored closely so we won't have these aberrations occur that cost us so much that I think the security angle tends to cover up very grave errors. The final CIA thing that I have to bring out is that from the other side, one of Jones' chief lieutenants, a man name Phillip Blakey. He was the man who arranged for the lease of the land down there, the land that was leased from the Guyanese government (Phillip Blakey is the husband of Delx>rah Layton OOISINGER: Yes, he was the man who arranged for the lease of the land down there. CDMMENTA'IOR: Fact or rtliiX)r? The CIA was involved in mind-control experiments in Jonestown? IDISINGER: After I appeared here in Washington in late February I started getting information, I started getting calls and people started getting information to me. I had heard the mindcontrol ruroors fran alm:>st the time it happened. I discounted those and dismissed them because I sllnply did not believe them. But information was brought to me after my appearence here in February that caused me to believe that it probably is the case. That Jonestown was a center for mind-control experiments following thJ:ough with the MKultra program of the CIA which they had for twenty-five years and exercised in the VA hospitals, in the federal prisons, state prisons, and same state hospitals. And Helms (Richard Helms, fonner CIA director) said in '74 that they had discontinued it because the ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union) had put pressure on. But now the charge is that they transferred it to private cults for continuing their experimentation and Jonestown appearently was one of those cults. COMMENI'A'IDR: that? Apparently! Can you prove IDISINGER: Well, I will give you this, the circl.IDStantial evidence. A vast amount of drugs was found at Jonestown. They were never specified as to what they were. We heard there were a lot of drugs, and we thought they were in drug running. All of those drugs were (Continued on Page 5)
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